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Little Acorns – Introduction
Insp Jonny reviews Little Acorns
8th April 2012
Hi Bloggers, a combination of LTO’s server problems and my own internet connection issues over the last two and a bit weeks has meant this update is long overdue. I can only apologise for that.
Anwyay, the table below shows results when using the Fibonacci staking system. Results using level stakes are stated at the end of this update.
I think it’s important to mention that, despite this being a system, I may not get the exact same results as somebody else using Little Acorns. Obviously, odds are changing all the time, and this means that certain selections may qualify at one time, and may not an hour later. I can’t physically watch the odds changing all day long, so there may well be selections I have missed which may have actually been qualifiers.
Because of my internet connection issues and a holiday, there have been a few non-betting days (some days have been betting days but had no selections also)
Also, one little slightly confusing bit. In the “Result” column, a win, means that the bet itself has won and not that the horse has won. This is a laying system, so if the result says won, then the horse has lost and therefore the bet has won.
| Date | Selection | Odds | Result | Stake | Profit | Bank |
| 07/04/2012 | Sir Tantallus Hawk | 1.89 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £183.80 |
| 05/04/2012 | Perfect Words | 2 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £182.85 |
| 30/03/2012 | Prince Tam | 1.91 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £181.90 |
| 30/03/2012 | Quinsman | 2 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £180.95 |
| 29/03/2012 | Perfect Chi | 2 | won | £2.00 | £1.90 | £180.00 |
| 28/03/2012 | Anaconda | 1.78 | Loss | £1.00 | -£0.78 | £178.10 |
| 27/03/2012 | First in Command | 1.85 | Loss | £1.00 | -£0.85 | £178.88 |
| 27/03/2012 | Plenty Pocket | 1.87 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £179.73 |
| 25/03/2012 | Rival D’estruval | 1.68 | Loss | £1.00 | -£0.68 | £178.78 |
| 25/03/2012 | Thelobstercatcher | 1.8 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £179.46 |
| 24/03/2012 | Forgotten Hero | 1.93 | Loss | £1.00 | -£0.93 | £178.51 |
| 14/03/2012 | Palawi | 1.91 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £179.44 |
| 12/03/2012 | Offbeat Safaris | 1.92 | Loss | £1.00 | -£0.92 | £178.49 |
| 12/03/2012 | Whizaar | 1.98 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £179.41 |
| 09/03/2012 | Little Fritz | 1.87 | won | £2.00 | £1.90 | £178.46 |
| 08/03/2012 | Overrule | 1.61 | Loss | £1.00 | -£0.61 | £176.56 |
| 08/03/2012 | Old Tricks | 2 | Loss | £1.00 | -£1.00 | £177.17 |
| 06/03/2012 | Stand Guard | 1.71 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £178.17 |
| 04/03/2012 | Persian Snow | 1.99 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £177.22 |
| 03/03/2012 | Absinthe | 1.95 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £176.27 |
| 02/03/2012 | Sunley Pride | 1.86 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £175.32 |
| 02/03/2012 | Dreambrook Lady | 1.95 | won | £13.00 | £12.35 | £174.37 |
| 01/03/2012 | Colour guard | 1.87 | Loss | £8.00 | -£6.96 | £162.02 |
| 26/02/2012 | Barbers Shop | 1.52 | Loss | £5.00 | -£2.60 | £168.98 |
| 25/02/2012 | Teaforthree | 1.59 | Loss | £3.00 | -£1.77 | £171.58 |
| 25/02/2012 | Grumeti | 1.55 | Loss | £2.00 | -£1.10 | £173.35 |
| 20/02/2012 | Red Somerset | 2.00 | Loss | £1.00 | -£1.00 | £174.45 |
| 18/02/2012 | Roxelana | 1.79 | Loss | £1.00 | -£0.79 | £175.45 |
| 18/02/2012 | Keys | 1.70 | won | £1.00 | £0.95 | £176.24 |
| 18/02/2012 | Binocular | 1.71 | Loss | £1.00 | -£0.71 | £175.29 |
Non-betting days were: 21st to 24th of February, 15th to 23rd March.
Fibonacci Staking
Starting Bank: 176 pts
Bank after day 35: 183.8 pts
Profit: 7.8 Pts
Level Stakes (5 pts)
Starting Bank: 176 pts
Bank after day 35: 200.84 pts
Profit: 24.84 pts
Results are inclusive of 5% commission taken on winnings by the Betting Exchange.
Regards,
Inspector Jonny reviewing Little Acorns
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Admin note – Inspector Jonny is unable to continue the review of Little Acorns so we are going to restart the review from day one over on BST.
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Little Acorns – Introduction
Insp Jonny reviews Little Acorns
12th February 2012
Hi Bloggers, Inspector Jonny here with a new review. This is the first review I’ve done here on Lay The Odds, though I’ve done a review before on Betting System Truths. I do quite a lot of betting in horse racing markets, both with bookmakers and exchanges. I mostly do trading and arbitrage and I also have quite a lot of experience with laying selections, which will hopefully be helpful when conducting this review.
Little Acorns is a simple laying system. The actual purchased product is an e-Book. The document is a 25 page pdf, including the system rules, staking plan, starting bank, as well as an added “bonus” called Football Bankbuilder, which I believe is also to be reviewed on LTO.
Little Acorns deals with horse racing (specifically English, but the author says he has no reason to believe it wouldn’t work on Irish racing, I will only use English racing). All selections are lays (betting on horses to lose), where certain conditions must be satisfied to identify a selection. Most conditions are price factors, (relating to available odds on Betfair), though one also requires the use of the Racing Post website.
As I’ve just alluded to, Betfair will be used to lay the selections, as it’s the largest exchange with the most liquidity. I’ll report the results with a commission of 5% on winning bets.
Though Little Acorns is a system, the time at which bets are placed is not fixed. The author says they can be placed any time before the race starts, as long as the market is formed. I imagine I’ll mainly be recording bets around 12 o’clock as this should mean the vast majority of markets will have formed. What this means is that other people may get slightly different results to me, since they may place their bets at different times.
In terms of staking plans, the author offers three different options, I will be using the first plan (Fibonacci sequence, loss recovery) and the third (level stakes). The Fibonacci sequence is a mathematical set of numbers, which are calculated by adding the two previous numbers together. It so happens that this sequence crops up a lot in nature, for instance the number of petals on a flower is often a Fibonacci number (not really sure how this is relevant but I reckon it passes as mildly interesting). The Fibonacci sequence is 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34. Obviously it continues but we’re only concerned with this part of it. Basically, if a bet loses (the horse wins) we move one level up the Fibonacci sequence. For instance, my first £1 lay loses, my second lay bet will also be £1. If that loses the next will be £2, then £3 then £5 and so on. If a bet wins we revert to the first number in the sequence. I should point out that the Fibonacci sequence is the number of POINTS that should be staked. If I’m betting £2 stakes per point, then each number in the Fibonacci sequence will be doubled. If the 34 point bet loses, we revert to the first number in the sequence also. Essentially this is just a very complex loss recovery stake plan. I apologize if this explanation is horrendously complicated, If anyone has any questions about it please feel free to leave a comment and I’ll try to explain more clearly.
I’ll make this clear from the off, I do not like loss recovery staking plans. I approach betting in a very mathematical way, and mathematically, there is no reason why a loss recovery plan would do any better than level stakes to the same average bet size. All it serves to do is increase variance (imagine a graph with profits against time, increased variance basically means the ups would be bigger but also the downs would be bigger). If a system can’t make profits to level stakes, it will not make profit with any other staking plan over the long term. If anyone can prove me wrong I’ll happily remove every single word of this. I’ll also eat every item of clothing I own.
Right, rant over. I’ll report results both with the recommended staking plan (The Fibonacci loss recovery) and level stakes. The starting bank for the Fibonacci plan will be 176 points. This is what the author recommends and I’m not quite sure why. The best I’ve come up with is because its twice the maximum points staked if you end up having 9 losing lays (which would exhaust the Fibonacci staking plan and you would go back to the start). In order to make the profits achieved by the two staking plans comparable, the level stakes starting bank will also be 176 points, with a 5 point fixed stake. The 5 points is a best guess of what the average stake will be using the Fibonacci staking plan, time will tell if this is reasonable or not.
This product would set you back £97, which I would say is relatively expensive compared to other systems which just come as an E-Book. Though if the product can guarantee you long term profits, then frankly £97 is nothing.
This review will initially last for 56 betting days and if it shows promise or there is another reason why this would become necessary, it will be extended to 84 betting days.
I will try to update the review every week, and I should say I can’t guarantee that every single day will be a betting day, I occasionally might miss a day for a holiday or a hangover. Hopefully there won’t be many of these though.
Well that’s about it, and I’ll get started ASAP. Let’s hope that the system can deliver the results we’re looking for!
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Inspector Jonny reviewing Little Acorns
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Sprinter Lays -Final Review
September 20th
Inspector Lee Reviews Sprinter Lays

Hello Bloggers,
This is the final review of Sprinter Lays.
Sprinter Lays is a horse racing lay service from the well known Betfan management company they offer a free 7 day trial service then offer 2 payment plans of either £34 a month or £68 a quarter.
The selections are received via email and you also have the back up of your own user name and password which you can use in the Betfan members area, only once did the selections not arrive in my inbox so I can safely say that this a reliable service.
The selections were received usually between 9 and 10am although on the odd occasion selections were sent the night before which I found strange giving that a lot of things can change before race time (ground, runners etc etc), bets were received 6 days out of 7 with sunday being their day off.
According to the Sprinter Lays website the author made 67 Pts profit from December to February so lets see how the 84 days review went on.
The author advised a 75Pt bank and with each selection he/she advised how much liability should be used with each selection.
In the 84 days I received 137 selections in which 21 were winners which made it 84.67% strike rate but as we look deeper into the results we can see the problem of this service.
Out of 137 selections only 10 were less then 3.00 BSP and a whopping 44 were over 10.00 in fact 92 selections were over 6.00 which surely for a laying service is far too high, in the early days of the review it was slow going, with it taking up to day 22 to be in profit on the 1pt liability side, day 37 saw the service be 7pts up but a week later losses saw the service running at a loss again, the service then endured a purple patch and by the time the intial 56 day review had ended things were looking up with the service being up by 10pts (1pt liabilitity) this continued to day 74 with 22.22pts profit in the 1pt liability section and up by £45 at £10 per point.
Unfortunately my fears of the high odds selections came back to haunt Sprinter Lays as 3 big losses killed the service at odds of 9.14, 16.00 and 8.60 and as the old addage goes of if you play with fire eventually you will get burnt and that is what happened here, the last 3 days brought 2 more losses (4.35 & 8.43) and unfortunately for Sprinter Lays that was that.
My final thoughts are that this laying service seemed very promising at one point but I always had this nagging doubt that a big priced winner was around the corner and my fears came true and with the service running at a big loss plus the £68 subscription fee, then unfortunately it will have to go into the failed category.
The results on the Sprinter Lays website haven’t been updated since the end of February, which for me speaks volumes.
Final Bank 60.87Pts -14.13Pts
Starting Bank 75Pts
Total P/L to Date at £10 Per Point Stakes= – £141.30
Total P/L For Level Stakes of 1Pt Liability= -18.12Pts
Regards
Inspector Lee
Sprinter Lays Final Review
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