Comments on: The Reality Of Laying Horses On Betfair

By: mark

mark — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:37:42 +0000

@Alison Cloonan: If you only want to make about £30 a day then use All By The Book as it works.

By: john

john — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:59:11 +0000

@Alison Cloonan:
After years of loosing at backing i thought i would start laying and joined several lay tipster lines which all lost. i then stumbled across one that requires a lot of patience, they only send the tip 2-5 minutes before the off so you can imagine it is a pain waiting for something that sometimes does not come!!(sometimes only 1 a day) the system works well and shows a good steady profit and has now disciplined my self not to throw money away on gambling as i now get a steady but small income (my starting bank was small) from this.
The owner suggests that tipster services that give their selections out in the morning are missing out on so much of the information required to complete the jigsaw of the race. Pre paddock/paddock/going down ok/ on course betting etc etc and i agree (well now i do anyway!!)
I hope you all can find the right system for yourselves as once you do it really can change things around, i really dont like ‘betting’ now when i dont have any good information.
Anyway good luck and happy laying.

ps a bot can help take away the immotional part of laying/tilting however it is not something i use now.

By: Alison Cloonan

Alison Cloonan — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:21:52 +0000

@Michael: I have been trying to lay horses for 2 years now and fed up off building a pot and then losing it all on an outsider. Ive tried dutching, hedging and always seem to lose long term. Just want to make £30 a day to pay of my morgage.
I would be so greatful if you could send me a winning formula or some advise

By: Alison Cloonan

Alison Cloonan — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:18:05 +0000

@Robert:
In principle this sounds a good system. but only if all the bets get matched, if not you will be facing a loss. You can put them on unmatched but to get them all matched is virtually impossible.
I would be interested if you have any ideas on how you can be quick enough or a formula to get these bets matched in running.

By: The Galloping Punter

The Galloping Punter — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 01:17:17 +0000

Hi, in order to make money laying horses, this may not come as a surprise: you actually need to put in the work to calculate each horses chance and then compare the market price with your estimation and only lay horses that are at least 25% lower than your target price. did I say work? Yes, to price a race up usually takes me 15-20 minutes. That means at least 2-3 hours just to get by the 2 best cards on the day. Class 1-Class 4 races should only be the avenue to go down, as the form can be counted on. Lower grades and AW in particular, just do not show any consisency whatsoever. I’ve tried every approach in the book last 10 years, and mark my words: There are ZERO “systems” that you magically in 10 seconds can find a lay from and expect the cash to roll in. You need a thorough understanding of the form. Read as many book as you can on the subject, and pay close attention to the handicapper. Jockeys form and trainers form are overrated factors. May the form-force be with you

By: Nichola

Nichola — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:24:13 +0000

@Michael:
I need a laying system that actually has consistent profit no matter how small of a margin, i seem to be going well for a while on betfair and then a loose just sets me back to the beginning again and it takes a while to get back on track. any suggestions appreciated thanks

By: Gordon Gekko (from Australia)

Gordon Gekko (from Australia) — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:14:15 +0000

@colin whitehead: LOL! Couldn’t stop laughing about your flying pink pig. Are you sure it was a pig? Because the ears look bigger than that, it might have been an Alpaca. Looks like an alpaca, smells like an alpaca, talks like an alpaca, even walks like an alpaca. Yup, it’s an alpaca. Now, after reading Master Michael’s talk of “10 million” lays in five years, work that out for yourself, that’s 5,500 lays a ***ing day for five years! Absolute rubbish.

By: Ian

Ian — Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:07:24 +0000

@craig:

The lay bets are done on betfair Craig so as such there is no paper ticket, just the entry in the account and transaction deals for the betfair account. I’m not really sure what you mean though.

By: craig

craig — Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:29:37 +0000

Does anyone have an old ticket for a lay bet so one can wee what they look like? thanks!

By: Ian

Ian — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:19:19 +0000

@paul vincent:

Hi Val – I do have your problem of laying level stakes at SP solved as per our earlier exchange – however, you seem to have disappeared. Get in touch if you are still interested.

Ian