Any up to date results for ‘layers of profit’?

@Mudashiru A Usman:
Hi Mudashiru,
You have probably given up on waiting for a reply by now.
I have come accross a very good cheap horse rating and tipster service.

It may not be right for you because it uses more complicated bets – dutching and 20% Win 80% Place bets, and forecasts and also a little laying.
The dutching is the key thing tough and most people should be able to do that – either roughly work out the required stakes for a fixed profit yourself, or google ‘ductching calculator’ and use one of them.

The tipster is Ron Robinson and he is raising money for Horseracing charities using several services.
The service cost ranges from a one-off £1 up to £350 per year, but this one includes part ownership of 3 horses in training as well as all his tips and information.
I have subscribed to the next service dow – called Gold it has everything except the horse ownership and costs £120 per year = 33pence per day.
I find his advice to be very good. You can sign up for a free newsletter in which he gives out details of the previous days advise and results and also some free tips – but not his best ones.
He used to be a postman so he calls his website post racing dot net.

I hope this is not censored.

Cheers,
Ian

Have u ever heard of a system called the secret of how to hit big priced winners by betshare publishing

Hi,

Just wondering about the maidensystem from laytheodds.

Do you have any statistics of the profitability of laying such horses proposed in the system.

Monte.

@Mythtical:

hi myhtical. I am interested in this. couldyou go into a bit more detail as to what I do? never done anything like this before.

how do I find timeform results page for example? do I just back the rank outsider on betfair in a race and hope its price comes in to lay it? is it as simple as that or have I missed something? sorry for all the questions. cheers.

i have looked at and tried a few types of horse laying systems in the past. also when i am not working i like to trade ,not so much to make a healthy profit but to understand the dynamics of it all. i have just noticed a system on an auction site about laying odds-on-shots, which i like the sound of as potentially i could win more money than what my liability is. if anyone has purchased this item could you give me some feedback to help me make a decision as to whether i should purchase or not . thankyou

Pls can you help me on your profitable horse betting strategy i did not no how to select from the tipsters

@Adrian:
TIME VENUE HORSE WIN OF LAY RESULT WIN LAY
12H00 NEWCASTLE LACKAMON WIN
AIKMAN LAY
12H10 BANGONDEE PEDDLERS CROSS WIN
12H15 GOWRANPARK HANGAR FIVE LAY
12H55 NEWBURY PROSPECT WELLS WIN
1H35 TOWCESTER TWENTYFORCARAT WIN
2H25 BANGONDEE WATLEDGE LAY
3H50 TOWCESTER RHINESTONE REBEL WIN
8H20 WOLVERHAMPTON HAAF A SIXPENCE WIN

Look at these selections for today and comment

Anyone had any experience of “Betting Booster” another SCAM?

Hi JohnB

Yes, we wouldn’t be able to let anything get posted which gave away the strategy. This would not be fair to the people who do purchase it.

I did look at it with the possibility of reviewing Cashflow Football. However it is significantly similar to something we are already reviewing on BST called Total Football Trading – The Underdog.

So we won’t be running a review of Cashflow Foootball in the forseable future. By all means let us know your success rate with using the strategy.

@ Mark

Yeah I’d be happy to do so, but the only problem with that is I don’t want to give anything away about the system as it’d be unfair to the author, and don’t know where LTO stand on this? Any thoughts or suggestions?

@ Goobops

I have also been selecting games in a similar fashion to yourself. Although playing every game also looks nice and profitable, I like to select games myself as you mention.

Almost £600 up now so still looking very good for £50 stakes. If it continues to still be consistent over the next week or two I may up my stakes. As I say I like the logic of the method as it should consistently work.

@Johnb:
Hi JohnB. Thanks for the reply, I would be very interested to see a few weeks results if you have time to publish them.

@Johnb:Hey JohnB I’ve been using Cashflow Football too and have had the same success so far at the same stakes. I’ve been very selective with my games thou checking injury/ suspension lists and previous results before deciding on making a trade. Have you been this cautious or have you just followed the systems guidelines?

@ Review Manager Rich

Thanks for the response, I look forward to a review on here or BST and to compare your results with mine.

@ Mark

So far the average liability for £50 stakes for me has generally been no more than £70. As a user of other trading systems and services, I find this is a low liability in comparison to most of those.

It’s also pretty simple to operate which is a bonus. Looking solid so far and in theory it should continue to do so, fingers crossed

I can post a future update of how I get on with it in a week or two if you like?

@Johnb:
Was looking at buying this myself. You are using £50 stakes but what is you max liability on a bet. How much could you loose if its a loosing trade? Just trying to get an idea how quickly you could loose the £400 profit.

@Johnb:

Hi John

Cashflow Football is on my list of upcoming reviews, hopefully we will have it on here or on BST soon

Rich

Recently bought the Cashflow Football system and had pretty impressive success so far using it.

Over £400 up using £50 stakes so far, looking really good so just hope it continues to deliver.

Anyone else been using this system?

Maybe one for the LTO admins to look into and review?

Hi there, I’ve been looking with interest at the stats and predictions available from football-bet-data.co.uk.

They show a 1×2 strike rate of around 45% – which although very good – I don’t believe its high enough to beat the bookies over round.
What does interest me is the correct score strike rate of around 9.5%. With many of the correct scores being 2-1, 2-2, 2-0 etc I’m thinking there could be some scope here.

What i’m looking for is a way of calculating approx correct score odds depending upon the match odds.

There must be a rough formula on betfair as to when a team is 1.50 for instance – the odds for 0-0, 1-0, 0-1 etc etc must be pretty constant – and possibly a linear relationship as the teams odds move towards 2.0 or 1.01

Hi Richard,
I have signed up for the remaining 3 week free trial of Stateside Sports Pro, a Cory Daniels, (received a promo from TAPS).
His spreadsheet results 01/07 to 30/092011 look good.
He quotes you as “Results are fully verifiable with Richard Van Orden at Lay The Odds and Betting System Truths who was also on the BETA trial of the service.”
Can you confirm this is correct please?
many thanks
Richard

@Peter: hi Pete,
how long does free trial go for? i will subsribe if any good. can you send
tips to mal-shaw@hotmail.com?
thx bonscott

@Peter:

Hi Peter

We are essentially a review site and review systems that are already on-sale to the public.

We do not publish tips for trials.

If you contact a system publisher like Betfan.co.uk They might like to recieve your tips for trial to see if they can work out a publishing deal for you.

Good luck with your system.

Rich
Review Manager

Something a bit different. I have a system I use to lay horses – but for US tracks. I live in the US, and am not familiar enough with punters to know if there is a market for such a thing. I can’t use Betfair, so I play on a different exchange. I don’t have a “slick” website (yet? ), but was curious to know if there was a place I could post daily lay selections for US tracks for free to see how things go. I cover Betfair’s US tracks, and my system plays LOW BSPs (11 selections for Monday – 1 at 9.6, 1 at 7 and the rest under 5.3).

Thanks for any insight you can provide or any direction you can point me in!

- pbmarks

@gordoncoles:
What are this years results for all by the book?

Hello Ander,

I am sorry to hear that you did not get on with the Golden Key Method 2, however, I am confused by some of your other statements.

I do not understand what you mean by “some of the five and four and a half star methods do not accept comments” if you select any of the products listed in the final review drop down box, scroll to the bottom of the page, and there you are welcome to leave your comment.

Also, what do you mean by “they all have the same Paypal account”? We do not actually sell anything ourselves, we simply give people the opportunity to follow a link from our review sites to the vendors sales page, yes we will receive a commission payment, this helps to keep our sites free for our readers, but all payments are made to the vendors of products, not to us, so I dont understand your reference to “Mr Dave’s” Paypal account?

I suspect what you may mean is that Mr Dave is in fact Steve Davidson, who is the seller of the Golden Key Method, and some of the other passed products we have. The fact is we review many of his products, and most fail.

You are right, Steve Davidson does use Paypal to sell his products, but he does make it very clear on all his sales pages that he does not give refunds.

I can assure you 100% that we are indeed neutral, just look at the list of failed products on our sites compared to the passed and that speaks for itself.

If there is anything else I can help you with Ander, please feel free to ask, as we never seek to stop our readers having their say, as long as they stay within the bounds of decency!

Regards,
Gordon

Some weeks ago I purchased the Golden Key Method 2.To my surprise this method didn´t work for me.You will need lots of money to make it work if it ever works which I very much doubt..But then I noticed that some of the five and four and a half stars methods do not admit comments.Futhermore some of the most overrated methods in this site have the same paypal account (Mr Dave´s)and again do not admit critics or comments, see it for yourself!.So it passed my mind for a moment that this site may be not so neutral and maybe they might be selling their own methods or someone´s else overating them to much..I still prefer to think that Lay The Odds is a neutral site and that they do not need this kind of businesses though their review costed me already 87 pounds for absolutely nothing.By the way,Mr Dave paypal account ´s methods in this site do not admit any kind of refund which for just 15 pdf pages for 87 pounds is in my opinion a scandal at least and no supoort service at all .I hope this post help other fellow punters to be more careful than I was.Good luck anyhow to all punters from a spanish punter.Ander

hi Max,
good question, you could have a look at KILLER INSTINCT (BST webpage)after day 29 its 32.50 points in profit & the loosing days havent hurt the bank to much.
cheers bon

good morning i am italian and i dont understand better various system on laytheodds. i ask. you can tell me a good way to can esarn with soccer or horse? there is some god software? there is person who give signal to bet? yu cna help me? thank you

Hi Zhan,

Sorry, I dont understand your question?

Cheers
Gordon

where can i find the answer from this lto talk?

Greetings

19:30 Uttoxeter Behest : BSP 1000
Inplay Price Low 10
1 pound stake 94.05 profit
9405 % profit

A good friend of mine backed him at 1000 and hedged at 20 leaving him at 465.50 profit for a 10 pound stake . Not bad if you concider that his starting bank 2 weeks ago was 30 pounds playing a simple 1 pound stake . Now it time for a more relaxed version of the method for him .

Using Agt pro ( the Geeks Toy ) Back the worst 3 horses in the race , for the same reason as before , the bots , the bookies and the average punter will lay the horses infront that will cause the worst horses price to go down .
Looking at the betfair system ……. Befair’s job is to exange money between two punters and to keep the margin line known as the over round and under round and for their efforts you the punter give them a commision from your winnings . Look at betfair as a water matress , if you push on one point somewhere else it pushes upwards , now Betfair is more like a jumping castle filled with water and the kids is having ball .

So by betting the 3 worst horses in a race or even one before the off of the race will produce a better price for the 3 favourites infront . Now one punters bet is not enough to cause resistance or tension but say 80 punters can have a effect on the market and that will produce a better price for the favourite or join favourites . By better i mean more value if backing the favourite . If laying the favourite , it’s actualy worse value .

So keep the stakes low and have fun .

Regards Mythtical

Hi,

The Golden Key website states that you require a 100 point bank so not quite sure why you say they don’t tell the truth. It’s not advisable to run any system/service with a smaller bank than is recommended and most seasoned bettors will use a larger bank than recommended. It received 4.5 stars here and on Betting System Truths based on it’s performance over an 84 day period. I can’t answer as to why they haven’t responded to your email but if you’ve only emailed them once I would suggest you email again.

I bought Golden Key Method 2 as it was very well rated in this site and review.The publicity does not tell all the truth about this method as in other to put this method into work you will need lots of money.First funding 12 bookies accounts 12x 50 pounds minimum= 600 pounds , then funding your betfair account minimum 200 pounds,of course buying this system 84 pounds and if you want to run it through a good bot like laybotpro another 38 pounds more.He will be cashing then comission for every tool and bookie you fund or buy afterwards..There are other variants in this method but not good enough.This is not at all stated in the golden key method 2 publicity site which makes the whole thing very dissapointing to start.When contacting the support to see if he could advise me how not to spend so much money to start betting…surprise! the four and a half rated method support does not answer the emails!!only cash your money and bye bye !-Good business indeed for golden key 2!

Lto , great job maintaining the site and your newsletter is superb .
Quit gambling , took up to much time for me . So basicly im here to give some usefull advise . Step 1 : open timeform results page at any race . Step 2 : Look at the worst horse in the betting . Step 3 : Look at in-play price : Low .

(race at random )16:55 Haydock Park , No 3 Fitz Flyer , BSP :18.50 , In-play Low : 5.50 .

For a simple $1 stake you could have made $2.26 profit or 226% profit .

But how to get to lay that horse at 5.50 is the question , well , Use The Geeks Toy , it’s fast , and when it shows your in the green just get it .

If you even want to just try it , use 0.50 stakes and you will make money , that i garentee you .

As the punters lay the horses infront to lose it actualy pushes the worst horse betting down .

So enjoy it ! It’s Free .

Kind Regards

Mythtical

Hello,are you intending to do atrial on the second part of the full year system,full value, it shoud be commenced about now after the new naps table has sttled down,len.

Hello to all ,

Im trying to find out if a book with four systems titled 500 from betfair in a week is worth purchasing . Im fairy new to online betting and exchanges . Im glad that I have found LTO and BST sites and find them very interesting and informative All the best to all

Brian Cee

Hi there, I’m currently looking at a piece of laying software here in Australia that can pick out a horse to lay based on WOM, no big deal right? The part that interest me is the Hedging button, once the selection is made the software constantly updates your position making you aware if your red or green, the makers claim the idea is to watch the race and if the horse is looking good around the 200-400m mark hit the hedge button and the software will sread the loss across the entire field, this allows you to minimise your losses.Depending on which day you speak with them they want 15-20K for it, clearly overpriced. Is anyone aware of any off the shelf software that does the same?

IS THIS THING WORKING

Hello admin, I’m not surprised you cant find anyone to do this review,first it is difficult to find a qualifier,the if you do you cant check if it was a bet,the stakes used in the examples are way out of an ordinary punters pocket.Arthur used his own slant on this system and not as the pdf file supplied,i look forward to the review,but i advise to wait,as the saying goes let the buyer beware.Len’

Hello.
What is the status on the Pro Betfairtrading? I am really looking forward to this.

Hi

Thanks for a great site, both here and at BST. What a welcome change to see a site based on honesty and truth, rather than scams and lies as peddled by many others in this industry. Also, any chance of putting up the LTO past newsletters on the site. I missed Nos. 2 and 3.

Hello…
I would like to report a site called “betfairmethods.com”. I believe they are scams because I paid the via paypal to gain access to their site and the methods they present describing how to bet in betfair but the password they sent me was wrong and I couldn’t log in to their site . I have sent them several mails to the adress they suposed to have as a help or resolving problems mailbox (betfairmethods@yahoo.co.uk) and I did not receive any kind of response….Could you investigate?

Hello!
It is really sad to see that Arthur having a hard time lately, but hopefully he will be on topp of things really soon.
I think it is a vice desission to get a “stand-in” to contineu the review.
Will there be more than one bank to follow?
Will the filter that Arthur used still be able to get if we buy pbt from the link here at LTO?

best regards
bernt